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:Perhaps this topic requires more information, particularly from somebody with an A1442 iPhone. At this time, there are two carriers in China that offer the iPhone: China Telecom and China Unicom.[http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1937] [http://store.apple.com/cn/browse/home/shop_iphone/family/iphone5 Apple's online store] suggests they have two models: the China Unicom model is GSM-unlocked, while the China Telecom model (the one with the new ME model numbers) is locked. Since China Telecom's model is locked and they have a CDMA network, it may be possible that the A1442 model is a CDMA-only variant. However, http://www.apple.com.cn/iphone/specs.html does mention that all models have support for various HSPA technologies, and it doesn't seem plausible for Apple to go out of their way to remove GSM functionality from a design that can already handle GSM and CDMA connections. Plus, it's not entirely clear if it can actually be unlocked in the future (a la Verizon and the iPhone 4S). --[[User:Dialexio|<span style="color:#BA0000; font-weight:normal;">Dialexio</span>]] ([[User talk:Dialexio|<span style="color:#BA0000; font-weight:normal;">talk</span>]]) 09:57, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
 
:Perhaps this topic requires more information, particularly from somebody with an A1442 iPhone. At this time, there are two carriers in China that offer the iPhone: China Telecom and China Unicom.[http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1937] [http://store.apple.com/cn/browse/home/shop_iphone/family/iphone5 Apple's online store] suggests they have two models: the China Unicom model is GSM-unlocked, while the China Telecom model (the one with the new ME model numbers) is locked. Since China Telecom's model is locked and they have a CDMA network, it may be possible that the A1442 model is a CDMA-only variant. However, http://www.apple.com.cn/iphone/specs.html does mention that all models have support for various HSPA technologies, and it doesn't seem plausible for Apple to go out of their way to remove GSM functionality from a design that can already handle GSM and CDMA connections. Plus, it's not entirely clear if it can actually be unlocked in the future (a la Verizon and the iPhone 4S). --[[User:Dialexio|<span style="color:#BA0000; font-weight:normal;">Dialexio</span>]] ([[User talk:Dialexio|<span style="color:#BA0000; font-weight:normal;">talk</span>]]) 09:57, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
 
:: That is strange as the two website contradict each other. I think we should wait for someone with one too. --[[User:Adaminsull|adaminsull]] ([[User talk:Adaminsull|talk]]) 11:48, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
 
:: That is strange as the two website contradict each other. I think we should wait for someone with one too. --[[User:Adaminsull|adaminsull]] ([[User talk:Adaminsull|talk]]) 11:48, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
:Let me provide some insight on the internals here. Internally, the baseband chip is able to support ''both'' GSM and CDMA. It's up to the baseband firmware to choose what to use. There are two [[IPSW File Format|IPSW]]s for each release as one contains the baseband firmware to support the GSM LTE bands in the United States. The other (Global) contains the baseband firmware to support the GSM bands outside of the United States and the CDMA bands across the world (where the [[iPhone 5]] has been release). This means that all devices support GSM. So, even if the device was released in China where it is only CDMA (and the device was modified to only work on China CDMA), the Global firmware still contains GSM support.<br />That's just my though here. The only exception here would be if the China [[iPhone 5]] didn't work with ''both'' [[n41ap|iPhone5,1]] and [[n42ap|iPhone5,2]] firmwares, but it does (iPhone5,2). --[[User:5urd|5urd]] ([[User talk:5urd|talk]]) 18:44, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
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:Let me provide some insight on the internals here. Internally, the baseband chip is able to support ''both'' GSM and CDMA. It's up to the baseband firmware to choose what to use. There are two [[IPSW File Format|IPSW]]s for each release as one contains the baseband firmware to support the GSM LTE bands in the United States. The other (Global) contains the baseband firmware to support the GSM bands outside of the United States and the CDMA bands across the world (where the [[iPhone 5]] has been release). This means that all devices support GSM. So, even if the device was released in China where it is only CDMA (and the device was modified to only work on China CDMA), the Global firmware still contains GSM support.<br />That's just my though here. The only exception here would be if the China [[iPhone 5]] didn't work with ''both'' [[n41ap|iPhone4,1]] and [[n42ap|iPhone4,2]] firmwares, but it does (iPhone4,2). --[[User:5urd|5urd]] ([[User talk:5urd|talk]]) 18:44, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

Revision as of 19:01, 8 January 2013

Removed models

Dialexio, you removed some models. I created the list based on infos in this wiki. I didn't know though if every storage size exists with every color and every combination with both bootroms. Based on what info did you remove the non-existent rows? It seems you removed too many of them. I just saw that my old 3GS, black, new bootrom, 32GB, is a MC133 and is no more listed. Can you please re-check those you removed? Thanks. -- http 07:43, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

Whoops. For some reason, I was thinking that only 8 GB units had the new bootrom at that time. :s --Dialexio 15:37, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

Another model number

I think on this page we should also add the other model numbers (like the A1332 for the iPhone 4 black) somehow. How are they related? -- http 15:24, 13 October 2011 (MDT)

They are added in the meantime. --http 00:28, 31 October 2012 (MDT)

iPhone 4S

According to the iFitIt Teardown, the model number for the iPhone 4S is A1387... --5urd 07:23, 14 October 2011 (MDT)

For which 4S model? Color, memory? Or for all the same? Do you know more? -- http 10:59, 14 October 2011 (MDT)
Well, the teardown is black... I am guessing sinse they dont use the devices, it would be 8GB... But A1387 sounds like the hardware model, not the device model that starts with MB or MC... So all iPhone 4S's may be A1387... --5urd 15:37, 14 October 2011 (MDT)
I also have an A1387. I would like to add this number in the list as well. But currently I have no infos. We don't know if this model is different for different memory, color, bootrom, production facility, or for what. Please post here, if you know more or if you have other numbers. This number is engraved on the phone itself (backside). There's also a code "EMC 2430". Let us know if you have a different number there. -- http 05:05, 23 December 2011 (MST)
My A1387 is also EMC 2430. It's a black AT&T 16GB beej 09:24, 23 December 2011 (MST)

iPad 3 and Apple TV 3G

MD328LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 16GB WHITE – USA
MC705LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 16GB BLACK - USA
MD329LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 32GB WHITE – USA
MD706LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 32GB BLACK - USA
MD330LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 64GB WHITE - USA
MC707LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 64GB BLACK - USA

MD366LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 4G 16GB BLACK - USA
MD369LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 16GB WHITE - USA
MD367LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 4G 32GB BLACK - USA
MD370LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 32GB WHITE - USA
MD368LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 4G 64GB BLACK - USA
MD371LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 64GB WHITE - USA

MD098LL/A – APPLE DIGITAL AV ADAPTER
MD199LL/A – APPLE TV – USA

--5urd 19:43, 9 March 2012 (MST)

And because Verizon Wireless must get their own special version, causing everybody more headaches…
MC733LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 16GB BLACK - USA
MD363LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 16GB WHITE - USA
MC744LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 32GB BLACK - USA
MD364LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 32GB WHITE - USA
MC756LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 64GB BLACK - USA
MD365LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 64GB WHITE - USA
--Dialexio 20:04, 9 March 2012 (MST)
So would I be right in assuming that the ones on mine are AT&T --5urd 23:05, 9 March 2012 (MST)
Yeah. --Dialexio 00:41, 10 March 2012 (MST)

Cutting up the table

In direct contrast to what I'd like to do on the Firmware page, I would like to divide this table by device type. I feel that it'd be a bit easier to maintain (and perhaps find information) if we had different tables for Apple TVs, iPads, iPad minis(?), iPhones, and iPod touches. --Dialexio 22:22, 30 October 2012 (MDT)

I would like to keep the basic structure of the table as it is. But yes, it may be separated by device type, as this is the left-most column and therefore wouldn't change anything. --http 00:24, 31 October 2012 (MDT)
Done --5urd 16:32, 31 October 2012 (MDT)

iPhone 5 China

Please see Apple KB HT3939. There is no GSM model it is just CDMA. --adaminsull (talk) 08:37, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

Perhaps this topic requires more information, particularly from somebody with an A1442 iPhone. At this time, there are two carriers in China that offer the iPhone: China Telecom and China Unicom.[1] Apple's online store suggests they have two models: the China Unicom model is GSM-unlocked, while the China Telecom model (the one with the new ME model numbers) is locked. Since China Telecom's model is locked and they have a CDMA network, it may be possible that the A1442 model is a CDMA-only variant. However, http://www.apple.com.cn/iphone/specs.html does mention that all models have support for various HSPA technologies, and it doesn't seem plausible for Apple to go out of their way to remove GSM functionality from a design that can already handle GSM and CDMA connections. Plus, it's not entirely clear if it can actually be unlocked in the future (a la Verizon and the iPhone 4S). --Dialexio (talk) 09:57, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
That is strange as the two website contradict each other. I think we should wait for someone with one too. --adaminsull (talk) 11:48, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
Let me provide some insight on the internals here. Internally, the baseband chip is able to support both GSM and CDMA. It's up to the baseband firmware to choose what to use. There are two IPSWs for each release as one contains the baseband firmware to support the GSM LTE bands in the United States. The other (Global) contains the baseband firmware to support the GSM bands outside of the United States and the CDMA bands across the world (where the iPhone 5 has been release). This means that all devices support GSM. So, even if the device was released in China where it is only CDMA (and the device was modified to only work on China CDMA), the Global firmware still contains GSM support.
That's just my though here. The only exception here would be if the China iPhone 5 didn't work with both iPhone4,1 and iPhone4,2 firmwares, but it does (iPhone4,2). --5urd (talk) 18:44, 8 January 2013 (UTC)