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What is the point of having this template? It's not difficult to type out "13 Mar 2015" in a table. --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] ([[User talk:Dialexio|talk]]) 15:37, 13 March 2015 (UTC) |
What is the point of having this template? It's not difficult to type out "13 Mar 2015" in a table. --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] ([[User talk:Dialexio|talk]]) 15:37, 13 March 2015 (UTC) |
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− | :Dates should be written out with a non-breaking space (<code>&nbsp;</code>) between the "items". <code><nowiki>{{date|2015|03|13}}</nowiki></code> produces <code>13&nbsp;Mar&nbsp;2015</code>. Sure, we could litter the source with <code>&nbsp;</code> escape codes, but it's easier to understand the markup without syntax highlighting or any other fun stuff.<br />This isn't a good analogy, but why |
+ | :Dates should be written out with a non-breaking space (<code>&nbsp;</code>) between the "items". <code><nowiki>{{date|2015|03|13}}</nowiki></code> produces <code>13&nbsp;Mar&nbsp;2015</code>. Sure, we could litter the source with <code>&nbsp;</code> escape codes, but it's easier to understand the markup without syntax highlighting or any other fun stuff.<br />This isn't a good analogy, but why bother indenting template code with comment tags (<code><!-- comment --></code>) when one could just not indent at all? Because it's easier to read. What's easier to understand at first glance: <code>9:30&nbsp;13&nbsp;Mar&nbsp;2015</code> or <code><nowiki>{{date|2015|03|13|09|30}}</nowiki></code>? I don't know about you, but I'd prefer the second option (and so does [[User:iAdam1n|Adam]]). So again, it's not necessary, but it makes the markup easier to read. --[[User:5urd|5urd]] ([[User talk:5urd|talk]]) 16:37, 13 March 2015 (UTC) |
::Okay, that makes more sense. (I've never indented HTML with comments, but I digress.) But wouldn't it have been easier to just assign a fixed width or use CSS (<code>white-space:nowrap</code> or <code>white-space:pre</code>)? --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] ([[User talk:Dialexio|talk]]) 02:02, 14 March 2015 (UTC) |
::Okay, that makes more sense. (I've never indented HTML with comments, but I digress.) But wouldn't it have been easier to just assign a fixed width or use CSS (<code>white-space:nowrap</code> or <code>white-space:pre</code>)? --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] ([[User talk:Dialexio|talk]]) 02:02, 14 March 2015 (UTC) |
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+ | :::We could, but that would mean that everywhere we use a date, we have to wrap it in a <code><span></code> tag. I personally would prefer <code><nowiki>{{date|2015|03|14}}</nowiki></code> over <code><span style="white-space:nowrap;">14 Mar 2015</span></code>. Or did you mean, why is <code>14&nbsp;Mar&nbsp;2015</code> instead of <code><span style="white-space:nowrap;">14 Mar 2015</span></code>? For that, there is no real reason other than, I guess, I just didn't think of that. Also, I'm planning on adding an [https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Element/time HTML5 <time> tag] around the date with the machine-readable <code>datetime</code> attribute. We could then add <code>time { white-space: nowrap; }</code> to [[MediaWiki:Common.css]]. --[[User:5urd|5urd]] ([[User talk:5urd|talk]]) 19:20, 14 March 2015 (UTC) |
Revision as of 19:20, 14 March 2015
Purpose
What is the point of having this template? It's not difficult to type out "13 Mar 2015" in a table. --Dialexio (talk) 15:37, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
- Dates should be written out with a non-breaking space (
) between the "items".{{date|2015|03|13}}
produces13 Mar 2015
. Sure, we could litter the source with
escape codes, but it's easier to understand the markup without syntax highlighting or any other fun stuff.
This isn't a good analogy, but why bother indenting template code with comment tags (<!-- comment -->
) when one could just not indent at all? Because it's easier to read. What's easier to understand at first glance:9:30 13 Mar 2015
or{{date|2015|03|13|09|30}}
? I don't know about you, but I'd prefer the second option (and so does Adam). So again, it's not necessary, but it makes the markup easier to read. --5urd (talk) 16:37, 13 March 2015 (UTC)- Okay, that makes more sense. (I've never indented HTML with comments, but I digress.) But wouldn't it have been easier to just assign a fixed width or use CSS (
white-space:nowrap
orwhite-space:pre
)? --Dialexio (talk) 02:02, 14 March 2015 (UTC)- We could, but that would mean that everywhere we use a date, we have to wrap it in a
<span>
tag. I personally would prefer{{date|2015|03|14}}
over<span style="white-space:nowrap;">14 Mar 2015</span>
. Or did you mean, why is14 Mar 2015
instead of<span style="white-space:nowrap;">14 Mar 2015</span>
? For that, there is no real reason other than, I guess, I just didn't think of that. Also, I'm planning on adding an HTML5 <time> tag around the date with the machine-readabledatetime
attribute. We could then addtime { white-space: nowrap; }
to MediaWiki:Common.css. --5urd (talk) 19:20, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
- We could, but that would mean that everywhere we use a date, we have to wrap it in a
- Okay, that makes more sense. (I've never indented HTML with comments, but I digress.) But wouldn't it have been easier to just assign a fixed width or use CSS (