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== Site Related Requests ==
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== Will this site keep running? ==
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I'm enjoying learning about the highly technical side to the iPhone, but after what's happened with geohot, will this site continue? -- [[User:MaybachMan|MaybachMan]] 16:46, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
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:Yes it will continue. I had the same question and [[User:geohot|geohot]] already answered that on [[User_talk:geohot|his talk page]]. --[[User:Http|http]] 18:46, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
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::That's great to hear, thank you. --[[User:MaybachMan|MaybachMan]]
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== Merge pages ==
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[[/private/var]] is the correct name and has a better description, but /var has a full folder listing. --[[User:Ryccardo|Ryccardo]] 12:33, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
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:Dealt with. :) --[[User:Dialexio|<span style="color:#C20; font-weight:normal;">Dialexio</span>]] 02:58, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
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I think [[Sierra 7C108b]] and [[SwitchBoard.app]] should be merged. Or are there any differences that I misunderstood? --[[User:Http|http]] 22:13, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
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:I wouldn't merge the two since [[SwitchBoard.app]] ''is'' in [[Sierra 7C108b]], but it's not exclusive to that build. --[[User:Dialexio|<span style="color:#C20; font-weight:normal;">Dialexio</span>]] 00:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
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::I understand. Ok, no merge. But currently both are about the app. We should put that content into [[SwitchBoard.app]] and focus [[Sierra 7C108b]] more on the firmware then (would be very short right now). Also we should delete one of the two images. What do you think? --[[User:Http|http]] 03:10, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
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:::Agreed. Both of the screenshots show different "apps" though, so it might be best to keep both images. --[[User:Dialexio|<span style="color:#C20; font-weight:normal;">Dialexio</span>]] 03:41, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
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== Hackers and Teams ==
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We have only one page for [[User:Ih8sn0w|IH8sn0w]], but with this name we have both things: the person and the team. I'm not sure how to do this. He is listed as a member of his group. Also all referrals should distinguish then, that's quite difficult. He himself also had no idea. Maybe a new page with [[IH8sn0w team]] where the current content should go to? -- [[User:Http|http]] 19:20, 6 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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A similar problem exists for chronic. It is split already: [[User:ChronicDev]] (user) and [[Chronic Dev (team)|Chronic Dev]] (team). I think we should rename the team to [[Chronic Dev (team)|Chronic Dev Team]], although this is not their official name, but it helps to distinguish. What do you think? -- [[User:Http|http]] 19:27, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
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:We could use parentheses, such as [[iH8sn0w (team)]] and [[Chronic Dev (team)]]. Alternatively, we could use prefixes, like [[Team:iH8sn0w]] and [[Team:Chronic Dev]]. --[[User:Dialexio|<span style="color:#C20; font-weight:normal;">Dialexio</span>]] 19:56, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
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::Parentheses sounds good. Prefix is more wiki-internal stuff for me. -- [[User:Http|http]] 06:03, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
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::Thanks [[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] for going ahead with this. We now have a few disambiguation pages, but they are not marked as such (see [[Special:Disambiguations]]). I don't know how to mark them with this template. Do you? -- [[User:Http|http]] 06:43, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
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:I tried to see if I could get it to work (using the [[Chronic Dev]] page for testing), but I can't figure out why it won't appear on the [[Special:Disambiguations]]. --[[User:Dialexio|<span style="color:#C20; font-weight:normal;">Dialexio</span>]] 15:43, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
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== Baseband: Processor vs. Platform ==
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All right, so The iPhone Wiki has articles about baseband ''processors''. However, the [[XMM 6180]] is about the baseband ''platform''. The wiki mostly references baseband processors, but I'm a bit reluctant to go that route since it was [[User:Oranav|Oranav]], who definitely knows more about the baseband than me, that changed the article from baseband processor to baseband platform. I'd like to keep things consistent, so should we stick with referencing it by processor or platform? This inconsistency is bugging the crap out of me. --[[User:Dialexio|<span style="color:#C20; font-weight:normal;">Dialexio</span>]] 06:19, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
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== Cleanup orphaned pages ==
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The [[Special:Lonelypages|orphaned pages]] should be cleaned up. Possible work:
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*most of those pages need to get updated
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*add a link on another page to it, so that it's not orphaned anymore
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*The main page and some disambiguation pages may remain orphaned.
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*Some pages are really old, outdated and not worth to get updated. In this case add a deletion request to its talk page.
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*Maybe we need a new overview page that links to some of these pages (e.g. my request for a [[Beta Firmware]] page, see [[Talk:VFDecrypt_Keys:_3.x_BETA#STOP]])
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*Please note that links with a prefix don't count for this list, so that pages that only appear on a Category page also appear in this list. To get the full links list, go to the page and click "what links here".
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I started with a little cleanup already. --[[User:Http|http]] 10:02, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
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== iPhone Compatibility ==
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Well the wikis startpage (and maybe other pages) do not display really good on the iphone ;) -- [[User:M2m|M2m]] 16:11, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
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:Well, I think it's good enough. Ok, it's not optimized, but it's ok. If we improve the startpage to have only one column, then that would look ugly on a PC. I work a lot in here from my iPhone. The biggest problem is the edit box. You cannot really edit big texts from your iPhone. But that's a problem of the Wiki itself (Mediawiki) and we cannot fix that just by changing texts or layout. -- [[User:Http|http]] 22:25, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
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::On all textboxes, use 2 fingers to scroll --[[User:5urd|5urd]] 02:52, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
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::Installing the extension [http://mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:MobileSkin MobileSkin] would be something [[User:geohot|geohot]] would have to do. Also he would have to create a mobile skin as all that extension does is display a skin over the default MonoBook skin... --[[User:5urd|5urd]] 00:43, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
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== Deleting Firmware (keys) pages ==
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One thing. A key page should never be deleted unless it is empty. They still have valuable info on them. --[[User:5urd|5urd]] 03:55, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
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:I agree. Firmware pages shouln't get deleted. Missing information will get filled out sooner or later anyway. And we don't want to delete and recreate them. I'll delete firmware pages only if the page's name is wrong. If information on it is wrong, please just write it onto the page or remove the wrong info. If the page is empty (no keys) this still applies, but please don't create new empty pages. --[[User:Http|http]] 08:26, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

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Will this site keep running?

I'm enjoying learning about the highly technical side to the iPhone, but after what's happened with geohot, will this site continue? -- MaybachMan 16:46, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

Yes it will continue. I had the same question and geohot already answered that on his talk page. --http 18:46, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
That's great to hear, thank you. --MaybachMan

Merge pages

/private/var is the correct name and has a better description, but /var has a full folder listing. --Ryccardo 12:33, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Dealt with. :) --Dialexio 02:58, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

I think Sierra 7C108b and SwitchBoard.app should be merged. Or are there any differences that I misunderstood? --http 22:13, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

I wouldn't merge the two since SwitchBoard.app is in Sierra 7C108b, but it's not exclusive to that build. --Dialexio 00:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
I understand. Ok, no merge. But currently both are about the app. We should put that content into SwitchBoard.app and focus Sierra 7C108b more on the firmware then (would be very short right now). Also we should delete one of the two images. What do you think? --http 03:10, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
Agreed. Both of the screenshots show different "apps" though, so it might be best to keep both images. --Dialexio 03:41, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

Hackers and Teams

We have only one page for IH8sn0w, but with this name we have both things: the person and the team. I'm not sure how to do this. He is listed as a member of his group. Also all referrals should distinguish then, that's quite difficult. He himself also had no idea. Maybe a new page with IH8sn0w team where the current content should go to? -- http 19:20, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
A similar problem exists for chronic. It is split already: User:ChronicDev (user) and Chronic Dev (team). I think we should rename the team to Chronic Dev Team, although this is not their official name, but it helps to distinguish. What do you think? -- http 19:27, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

We could use parentheses, such as iH8sn0w (team) and Chronic Dev (team). Alternatively, we could use prefixes, like Team:iH8sn0w and Team:Chronic Dev. --Dialexio 19:56, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
Parentheses sounds good. Prefix is more wiki-internal stuff for me. -- http 06:03, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Thanks Dialexio for going ahead with this. We now have a few disambiguation pages, but they are not marked as such (see Special:Disambiguations). I don't know how to mark them with this template. Do you? -- http 06:43, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
I tried to see if I could get it to work (using the Chronic Dev page for testing), but I can't figure out why it won't appear on the Special:Disambiguations. --Dialexio 15:43, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

Baseband: Processor vs. Platform

All right, so The iPhone Wiki has articles about baseband processors. However, the XMM 6180 is about the baseband platform. The wiki mostly references baseband processors, but I'm a bit reluctant to go that route since it was Oranav, who definitely knows more about the baseband than me, that changed the article from baseband processor to baseband platform. I'd like to keep things consistent, so should we stick with referencing it by processor or platform? This inconsistency is bugging the crap out of me. --Dialexio 06:19, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

Cleanup orphaned pages

The orphaned pages should be cleaned up. Possible work:

  • most of those pages need to get updated
  • add a link on another page to it, so that it's not orphaned anymore
  • The main page and some disambiguation pages may remain orphaned.
  • Some pages are really old, outdated and not worth to get updated. In this case add a deletion request to its talk page.
  • Maybe we need a new overview page that links to some of these pages (e.g. my request for a Beta Firmware page, see Talk:VFDecrypt_Keys:_3.x_BETA#STOP)
  • Please note that links with a prefix don't count for this list, so that pages that only appear on a Category page also appear in this list. To get the full links list, go to the page and click "what links here".

I started with a little cleanup already. --http 10:02, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

iPhone Compatibility

Well the wikis startpage (and maybe other pages) do not display really good on the iphone ;) -- M2m 16:11, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

Well, I think it's good enough. Ok, it's not optimized, but it's ok. If we improve the startpage to have only one column, then that would look ugly on a PC. I work a lot in here from my iPhone. The biggest problem is the edit box. You cannot really edit big texts from your iPhone. But that's a problem of the Wiki itself (Mediawiki) and we cannot fix that just by changing texts or layout. -- http 22:25, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
On all textboxes, use 2 fingers to scroll --5urd 02:52, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
Installing the extension MobileSkin would be something geohot would have to do. Also he would have to create a mobile skin as all that extension does is display a skin over the default MonoBook skin... --5urd 00:43, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

Deleting Firmware (keys) pages

One thing. A key page should never be deleted unless it is empty. They still have valuable info on them. --5urd 03:55, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

I agree. Firmware pages shouln't get deleted. Missing information will get filled out sooner or later anyway. And we don't want to delete and recreate them. I'll delete firmware pages only if the page's name is wrong. If information on it is wrong, please just write it onto the page or remove the wrong info. If the page is empty (no keys) this still applies, but please don't create new empty pages. --http 08:26, 20 November 2010 (UTC)