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− | == TLC == |
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− | Okay, we've seen a bunch of firmwares come and go now. The page has started getting pretty incomprehensible and unwieldy. For starters, I think we can move the exploits used to a different page ([[Jailbreak Exploits]]?). We'll probably have to rethink how the tables display the information to make it friendlier to use… Maybe forgo tables, and present the information in a list, like such: |
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+ | == Table fixes == |
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− | '''iPod touch 4G''' |
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− | * Absinthe: iOS 5.0.1 |
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− | * greenpois0n: iOS 4.1, 4.2.1 |
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− | * p0sixspwn: iOS 6.1.5, 6.1.6 (Cydia package only) |
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− | * Saffron: iOS 4.3, 4.3.1, 4.3.2, 4.3.3 |
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+ | After reading the Jailbreak table I found a few fileds, which are (from my point of view) not correct. Please check these changes. If someone disagrees with these changes, please tel me. |
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− | What do you guys think? --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] ([[User talk:Dialexio|talk]]) 01:19, 23 March 2014 (UTC) |
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− | :I do like the idea of this, though I kind of prefer a table. I do agree though that something in the tables should change since they are getting too big. If no other table ideas are thought of, I would be fine with this proposed design. --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 01:27, 23 March 2014 (UTC) |
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− | ::We should definitely move the exploits to a seperate page. I'm not so sure about the list view since we wouldn't be able to show which version of which tool is capable of jailbreaking which firmware like we can in the tables at the moment. I think we should have a separate page for [[Jailbreak Tools]] and that this page should only be for the first few paragraphs. — '''[[User:Spydar007|<span style="color:#ff5a00;">Spydar007</span>]] [[User talk:Spydar007|<span style="color:orange;">(Talk)</span>]]''' 09:25, 14 April 2014 (UTC) |
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− | :::The only problem with the tables though, is that they do not fit on the page. If this can be made to fit, then I also like the idea of keeping tables. --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 09:31, 14 April 2014 (UTC) |
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− | ::::I don't think it is a problem that they don't fit as you can just use the scrollbar at the bottom of your browser. There aren't many that don't fit, four or five. The only way I see we would be able to fix this, would be to make the text smaller. — '''[[User:Spydar007|<span style="color:#ff5a00;">Spydar007</span>]] [[User talk:Spydar007|<span style="color:orange;">(Talk)</span>]]''' 09:40, 14 April 2014 (UTC) |
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− | :::::Maybe we could use the list view as [[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] said but in brackets list the version used? We could have a sentence on the page saying what it means. For example; |
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− | :::::'''iPod touch 5G''' |
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− | :::::* evasi0n7: iOS 7.0.4 (1.0) |
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+ | iOS 4.0: |
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− | :::::That way we keep the version numbers but don't overflow the page. --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 09:49, 14 April 2014 (UTC) |
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+ | * Star supports iPhone2,1 (http://www.jailbreakme.com/star/_/iPhone2,1_4.0.pdf) |
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− | ::::::We could do, but I still think the tables look cooler and nicer. — '''[[User:Spydar007|<span style="color:#ff5a00;">Spydar007</span>]] [[User talk:Spydar007|<span style="color:orange;">(Talk)</span>]]''' 09:52, 14 April 2014 (UTC) |
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+ | * sn0wbreeze supports iPhone3,1 |
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− | :::::::We could also have a table for each jailbreak tool, listing tool versions, iOS versions and devices supported. I am not sure yet how it would be designed, but wanted to put the idea out there incase anyone has ideas. --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 10:02, 14 April 2014 (UTC) |
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+ | * sn0wbreeze jailbreaks all iPhone2,1 untethered (software untether from Star) |
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− | ::::::::So you mean instead of having a several tables for devices, wer have several tables for jailbreak tools. Nice idea! I like that and it will be a lot cleaner than it is currently. — '''[[User:Spydar007|<span style="color:#ff5a00;">Spydar007</span>]] [[User talk:Spydar007|<span style="color:orange;">(Talk)</span>]]''' 10:06, 14 April 2014 (UTC) |
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− | :::::::::Yes, that is what I mean. I have a design that could be used, [http://imgur.com/IQbnG1x here]. If anyone has a better idea, please share it. --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 10:12, 14 April 2014 (UTC) |
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− | ::::::::::That looks great! I was just coming up with another design, although I think that that makes it clear enough. — '''[[User:Spydar007|<span style="color:#ff5a00;">Spydar007</span>]] [[User talk:Spydar007|<span style="color:orange;">(Talk)</span>]]''' 10:32, 14 April 2014 (UTC) |
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− | :::::::::::[http://imgur.com/keSNlbZ Here] is what I came up with for evasi0n7 (it's not finished, obviously). — '''[[User:Spydar007|<span style="color:#ff5a00;">Spydar007</span>]] [[User talk:Spydar007|<span style="color:orange;">(Talk)</span>]]''' 10:37, 14 April 2014 (UTC) |
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− | ::::::::::::Looks great too. We could maybe avoid the (3,1) etc but lets see what others think. --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 12:32, 14 April 2014 (UTC) |
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− | ::::::::::::I built on your proposal a little more and came up with this. (It's based off of Absinthe's compatibility information.) How does it look? --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] ([[User talk:Dialexio|talk]]) 01:50, 16 April 2014 (UTC) |
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− | ::::::::::::{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: smaller; text-align: center;" |
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− | |- |
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− | ! rowspan="2" | iOS Version |
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− | ! colspan="4" | Device |
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− | ! iPhone 4 (iPhone3,1) |
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− | ! iPhone 4 (iPhone3,2) |
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− | ! iPhone 4 (iPhone3,3) |
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− | ! iPhone 4S |
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− | |- |
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− | | 5.0 |
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− | | colspan="3" {{no}} |
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− | | {{yes|0.1}} |
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− | |- |
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− | | 5.0.1 (9A405) |
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− | | colspan="3" {{yes|2.0}} |
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− | | {{yes|0.1}} |
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− | |- |
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− | | 5.0.1 (9A406) |
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− | | colspan="3" {{n/a}} |
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− | | {{yes}} |
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− | |- |
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− | | 5.1 |
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− | | colspan="4" {{no}} |
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− | |- |
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− | | 5.1.1 |
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− | | colspan="4" {{yes|2.0}} |
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− | |} |
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− | :::::::::::::That does look a bit like mine. You've just added in the colors and changed a few things around. :P I would be happy to go forward with this design as the final version. — '''[[User:Spydar007|<span style="color:#ff5a00;">Spydar007</span>]] [[User talk:Spydar007|<span style="color:orange;">(Talk)</span>]]''' 12:36, 16 April 2014 (UTC) |
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− | ::::::::::::::Also looks fine by me. If the table still did not fit, we could use iPhone 4 without variants also. --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 12:50, 16 April 2014 (UTC) |
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− | :::::::::::::::Do you guys think we should go ahead with this? — '''[[User:Spydar007|<span style="color:#ff5a00;">Spydar007</span>]] [[User talk:Spydar007|<span style="color:orange;">(Talk)</span>]]''' 14:28, 19 April 2014 (UTC) |
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− | ::::::::::::::::Fine by me. --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 16:08, 19 April 2014 (UTC) |
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− | :::::::::::::::::Are we agreed to move the exploits to [[Jailbreak Exploits]] and the tools to [[Jailbreak Tools]]? — '''[[User:Spydar007|<span style="color:#ff5a00;">Spydar007</span>]] [[User talk:Spydar007|<span style="color:orange;">(Talk)</span>]]''' 14:27, 21 April 2014 (UTC) |
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− | ::::::::::::::::::I agree with the exploits, but do not like the idea for a new page for tools. We can add a new section <code>==Jailbreak Tools==</code> instead which IMO will look better. --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 16:22, 21 April 2014 (UTC) |
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− | ::::::::::::::::::I can go either way, but I don't see the need to move jailbreak compatibility to a new page. It seems fine over here. --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] ([[User talk:Dialexio|talk]]) 17:08, 21 April 2014 (UTC) |
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− | :::::::::::::Hm… Now that I see the layout in action, the page certainly looks neater, but it does seem a bit difficult to find the device you're looking for. Any ideas on how to tackle this? Perhaps we can do away with "Device" in favor of more descriptive cells for device classes. (i.e. "Apple TV," "iPad," "iPad mini," "iPhone," and "iPod touch") Here's how it might look: |
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− | :::::::::::::{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: smaller; text-align: center;" |
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− | |- |
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− | ! rowspan="2" | iOS Version |
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− | | colspan="4" | iPhone |
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− | | iPod touch |
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− | |- |
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− | ! iPhone 4 (iPhone3,1) |
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− | ! iPhone 4 (iPhone3,2) |
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− | ! iPhone 4 (iPhone3,3) |
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− | ! iPhone 4S |
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− | ! iPod touch 4G |
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− | |- |
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− | | 5.1.1 |
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− | | colspan="5" {{yes|2.0}} |
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− | |} |
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− | :::::::::::::(I thought of squeezing that row in between "Device" and the different models, but I didn't care for how it looked.) Any other thoughts? --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] ([[User talk:Dialexio|talk]]) 00:38, 25 April 2014 (UTC) |
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− | ::::::::::::::To be honest guys, I think the original way is best. Think about it. Let's say someone from JailbreakQA wants to know which tool jailbreaks his iPod touch 2G on iOS 4.2.1. We can direct him to this page. With the original way, he can just scroll down to the iPod touch 2G section, look at 4.2.1 and see exactly which software jailbreaks 4.2.1. But with this new way, he has to scroll through every single tool looking for "iPod touch 2G" and "4.2.1" to be listed, which will take a very long time. I personally think the original way is best. — '''[[User:Spydar007|<span style="color:#ff5a00;">Spydar007</span>]] [[User talk:Spydar007|<span style="color:orange;">(Talk)</span>]]''' 05:42, 25 April 2014 (UTC) |
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− | :I don't think reverting is a good idea since it does not fit on the page. If we could make this fit, we could maybe have a table that lists the device, tool name, version and iOS version in a table but narrow it down to say 5.x, 6.x, 7.x then that could work, though I do not have an idea currently of a design for this. In any case, the current way is fine. People can cmd + f or ctrl +f to find out. --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 08:41, 25 April 2014 (UTC) |
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− | ::I don't see why it doesn't fit. It fits perfectly fine on both my monitors for both my computers. It must be your screen resolution. I think that whatever way we do it, it will not be as easy to find as it will be as it was with the original way. Even if people do Ctrl+F or CMD+F, they still have to scroll through and find the correct place for it. — '''[[User:Spydar007|<span style="color:#ff5a00;">Spydar007</span>]] [[User talk:Spydar007|<span style="color:orange;">(Talk)</span>]]''' 14:50, 25 April 2014 (UTC) |
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− | :::It does not fit on a 15" monitor. The page needs to be scrolled over to find the end of some of the tables, such as iPhone3,1 table. --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 15:03, 25 April 2014 (UTC) |
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− | ::::The iPhone 3,1 has about 3-inch of space at the end of the table for me. What we could do, is to change the font size of certain tables. |
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− | ::::All tables start with this line: |
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− | ::::<code>{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: smaller; text-align: center;</code> |
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− | ::::So, instead we just change it to say this: |
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− | ::::<code>{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 7pt; text-align: center;</code> |
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− | ::::Which will make the font asize smaller. — '''[[User:Spydar007|<span style="color:#ff5a00;">Spydar007</span>]] [[User talk:Spydar007|<span style="color:orange;">(Talk)</span>]]''' 15:06, 25 April 2014 (UTC) |
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− | :::::Adam, scroll down and look at the iPhone 3,1 table now. Does it still overlap? — '''[[User:Spydar007|<span style="color:#ff5a00;">Spydar007</span>]] [[User talk:Spydar007|<span style="color:orange;">(Talk)</span>]]''' 15:08, 25 April 2014 (UTC) |
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− | ::::::No, still overlaps. See [http://imgur.com/0luXDMy this image]. --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 15:39, 25 April 2014 (UTC) |
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− | :::::::Since the new design can be confusing if you do not know which tool supports a certain firmware, I have had another design idea. See below. |
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− | ===6.x=== |
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− | {| class="wikitable" |
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− | |- |
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− | ! iOS |
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− | ! Jailbreak Tool |
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− | ! Tool Version |
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− | ! Devices |
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− | |- |
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− | | rowspan="2" | 6.0 |
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− | | [[redsn0w]] |
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− | | class="rborderplz" | 0.9.15b1<sup>1</sup> |
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− | | rowspan="2" | [[iPad 2]], [[iPad 3]], [[iPad mini 1G]], [[N88ap|iPhone 3GS]], [[iPhone 4]], [[N94ap|iPhone 4S]], [[iPhone 5]], [[N81ap|iPod touch 4G]], [[iPod touch 5G]] |
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− | |- |
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− | | [[evasi0n]] |
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− | | class="rborderplz" | 1.0-1.5.3 |
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− | |- |
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− | | 5.1 |
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− | | [[redsn0w]] |
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− | | 0.9.15b3<sup>1</sup> |
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− | | [[k66ap|Apple TV 2G]] |
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− | |- |
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− | | rowspan="2" | 6.0.1 |
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− | | [[redsn0w]] |
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− | | 0.9.15b3<sup>1</sup> |
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− | | [[N88ap|iPhone 3GS]], [[iPhone 4]], [[N81ap|iPod touch 4G]], [[iPod touch 5G]] |
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− | |- |
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− | | [[evasi0n]] |
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− | | 1.0-1.5.3 |
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− | | [[iPad 2]], [[iPad 3]], [[iPad mini 1G]], [[N88ap|iPhone 3GS]], [[iPhone 4]], [[N94ap|iPhone 4S]], [[iPhone 5]], [[N81ap|iPod touch 4G]], [[iPod touch 5G]] |
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− | |- |
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− | | 5.1.1 |
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− | | [[redsn0w]] |
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− | | 0.9.15b3<sup>1</sup> |
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− | | [[k66ap|Apple TV 2G]] |
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− | | rowspan="2" | 6.0.2 |
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− | | [[redsn0w]] |
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− | | 0.9.15b3<sup>1</sup> |
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− | | rowspan="2" | [[iPad mini 1G]], [[iPhone 5]] |
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− | |- |
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− | | [[evasi0n]] |
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− | | class="rborderplz nobrradiusplz" | 1.0-1.5.3 |
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− | |} |
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− | <sup>1</sup> [[Tethered jailbreak]]. |
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+ | iOS 4.0.1: |
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− | We would do this for each major iOS, 5.x, 6.x, 7.x etc. Let me know what you think. --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 11:45, 6 May 2014 (UTC) |
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+ | * sn0wbreeze supports iPhone3,1 |
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− | :I think this is a great idea! However, I think it could get confusing with having the iOS 5 firmwares for the Apple TV 2. I think that we a should either have these in the iOS 5 section, or label them as iOS 6. — '''[[User:Spydar007|<span style="color:#ff5a00;">Spydar007</span>]] [[User talk:Spydar007|<span style="color:orange;">(Talk)</span>]]''' 14:41, 6 May 2014 (UTC) |
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+ | * sn0wbreeze jailbreaks all iPhone2,1 untethered (software untether from Star) |
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− | ::I think that would be more confusing since they are technically in the right place IMO. Since it lists which device it is, I see no issue but if anyone else wants it done like this, ok. --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 14:48, 6 May 2014 (UTC) |
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− | :::True, but I think we should move both of the iOS 5 ones to either the top or the bottom of the table. — '''[[User:Spydar007|<span style="color:#ff5a00;">Spydar007</span>]] [[User talk:Spydar007|<span style="color:orange;">(Talk)</span>]]''' 14:53, 6 May 2014 (UTC) |
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− | ::::That would make it more confusing. Let's see what others think. --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 16:15, 6 May 2014 (UTC) |
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− | :::::Maybe the Apple TV can get its own table under the same header. In the separate table, the Apple TV can list both the iOS version and the marketing version… Just throwing that out there. --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] ([[User talk:Dialexio|talk]]) 05:53, 7 May 2014 (UTC) |
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− | ::::::Yeah, that could work. --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 07:49, 7 May 2014 (UTC) |
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− | ::::::That would work. — '''[[User:Spydar007|<span style="color:#ff5a00;">Spydar007</span>]] [[User talk:Spydar007|<span style="color:orange;">(Talk)</span>]]''' 14:19, 7 May 2014 (UTC) |
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− | ::::::So, you propose that we have a table for the major versions like 5.x, 6.x, 7.x etc. and in those sections we have one table for all devices other than that of the Apple TV. Below that, we have a second table that has the Apple TV jailbreaks. Should we still use the <nowiki>{{yes}}</nowiki> and <nowiki>{{partial}}</nowiki> templates? — '''[[User:Spydar007|<span style="color:#ff5a00;">Spydar007</span>]] [[User talk:Spydar007|<span style="color:orange;">(Talk)</span>]]''' 13:00, 10 May 2014 (UTC) |
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− | ::::::Oh and also, should we include the betas (like evasi0n7 can jailbreak 7.1b1,2&3)? — '''[[User:Spydar007|<span style="color:#ff5a00;">Spydar007</span>]] [[User talk:Spydar007|<span style="color:orange;">(Talk)</span>]]''' 13:02, 10 May 2014 (UTC) |
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− | :::::::Yes, that is how it is proposed. We should not include betas as it promotes more piracy with people upgrading to use them and if we listed it for [[evasi0n7]], we would have to for all jailbreaks that support betas. --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 15:20, 10 May 2014 (UTC) |
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− | ::::::::Should we still use the <nowiki>{{yes}}</nowiki> and <nowiki>{{partial}}</nowiki> templates? — '''[[User:Spydar007|<span style="color:#ff5a00;">Spydar007</span>]] [[User talk:Spydar007|<span style="color:orange;">(Talk)</span>]]''' 15:40, 10 May 2014 (UTC) |
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− | :::::::::I see no need to. --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 16:45, 10 May 2014 (UTC) |
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− | :::::::::I was thinking that it would be better to include <nowiki>{{yes}}</nowiki> and whatnot too. I decided to sample it to see how it looks, and I think I really like it. It's just a rough draft, so the colspans and rowspans for the yes/partial/no cells can be changed as necessary. Now if you'll excuse me, my eyes are starting to burn from staring at this wiki markup. :P --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] ([[User talk:Dialexio|talk]]) 20:36, 10 May 2014 (UTC) |
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− | ===4.x=== |
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− | {| class="wikitable" |
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− | |- |
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− | ! rowspan="2" | iOS |
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− | ! rowspan="2" | Jailbreak Tool |
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− | ! rowspan="2" | Tool Version |
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− | ! colspan="10" | Devices |
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− | |- |
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− | | [[iPad]] |
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− | | [[iPad 2]] |
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− | | [[iPhone 3G]] |
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− | | [[iPhone 3GS]] |
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− | | [[n90ap|iPhone 4 (iPhone3,1)]]<!--I only separated iPhone 4 for 4.x because GSM and CDMA were on two different codebases at this point.--> |
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− | | [[n92ap|iPhone 4 (iPhone3,3)]] |
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− | | [[iPod touch 3G]] |
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− | | [[iPod touch 4G]] |
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− | |- |
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− | | rowspan="2" | 4.1 |
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− | | [[redsn0w]] |
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− | | class="rborderplz" | 0.9.6b2 |
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− | | {{n/a}} |
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− | | {{n/a}} |
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− | | {{yes}} |
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− | | {{yes}} |
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− | | {{yes}} |
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− | | [[greenpois0n]] |
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− | | class="rborderplz" | RC4 |
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− | | {{yes}} |
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− | | rowspan="2" | 4.2.6 |
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− | | [[redsn0w]] |
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− | | class="rborderplz" | 0.9.6rc9 |
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− | | {{yes}} |
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− | | class="rborderplz" | RC5 b4 |
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− | | {{yes}} |
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− | | rowspan="2" | 4.3.3 |
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− | | [[redsn0w]] |
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− | | class="rborderplz" | 0.9.6rc16 |
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− | | {{no}} |
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− | | {{yes}} |
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− | | class="rborderplz" | 1.0-1.5.3 |
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− | |} |
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+ | iOS 4.0.2: |
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− | ====Apple TV==== |
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+ | * sn0wbreeze supports iPhone3,1 |
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− | {| class="wikitable" |
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+ | * sn0wbreeze jailbreaks all iPhone2,1 and iPod2,1 untethered (software untether from limera1n, I think) |
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− | |- |
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− | ! rowspan="2" | Marketing Version |
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− | ! rowspan="2" | iOS Version |
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− | ! rowspan="2" | Jailbreak Tool |
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− | ! rowspan="2" | Tool Version |
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− | ! Devices |
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− | |- |
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− | | [[k66ap|Apple TV 2G]] |
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− | |- |
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− | | 4.0 |
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− | | 4.1 |
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− | | [[Seas0nPass]] |
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− | | ? |
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− | | {{yes}} |
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− | |} |
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+ | iOS 4.1: |
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− | ===6.x=== |
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+ | * limera1n supports iPhone3,1 |
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− | ! rowspan="2" | iOS |
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− | ! rowspan="2" | Jailbreak Tool |
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− | ! rowspan="2" | Tool Version |
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− | ! colspan="10" | Devices |
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− | |- |
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− | | [[iPad 2]] |
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− | | [[iPad 3]] |
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− | | [[iPad 4]] |
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− | | [[iPad mini 1G]] |
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− | | [[iPhone 3GS]] |
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− | | [[iPhone 4]] |
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− | | [[iPhone 4S]] |
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− | | [[iPhone 5]] |
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− | | [[iPod touch 4G]] |
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− | | [[iPod touch 5G]] |
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− | | rowspan="2" | 6.0 |
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− | | [[redsn0w]] |
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− | | class="rborderplz" | 0.9.15b1<sup>1</sup> |
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− | | {{no}} |
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− | | {{no}} |
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− | | {{no}} |
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− | | {{no}} |
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− | | {{partial|Yes<sup>1</sup>}} |
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− | | {{partial|Tethered}} |
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− | | {{no}} |
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− | | {{no}} |
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− | | {{partial|Tethered}} |
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− | | {{no}} |
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− | | [[evasi0n]] |
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− | | class="rborderplz" | 1.0-1.5.3 |
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− | | colspan="10" {{yes}} |
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− | |} |
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− | <sup>1</sup> [[Tethered jailbreak]] on devices not vulnerable to [[0x24000 Segment Overflow]]. |
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+ | iOS 4.3: |
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− | ====Apple TV==== |
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+ | * sn0wbreeze Jailbreak for iPad1,1 & iPhone3,1 are untethered (uses Saffron's software untether) |
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− | {| class="wikitable" |
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− | ! rowspan="2" | Marketing Version |
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− | ! rowspan="2" | iOS Version |
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− | ! rowspan="2" | Jailbreak Tool |
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− | ! rowspan="2" | Tool Version |
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− | ! colspan="2" | Devices |
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− | | [[k66ap|Apple TV 2G]] |
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− | | [[Apple TV 3G]] |
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− | |- |
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− | | rowspan="2" | 5.1 |
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− | | rowspan="2" | 6.0 |
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− | | [[redsn0w]] |
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− | | 0.9.15b1 |
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− | | {{partial|Tethered}} |
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− | | {{no}} |
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− | | [[evasi0n]] |
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− | | 1.0-1.5.3 |
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− | | {{yes}} |
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− | | {{no}} |
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− | |} |
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− | <sup>1</sup> [[Tethered jailbreak]]. |
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− | ::::::::::I like it. I would say use colspan and rowspan save duplicate yes/no but other than that, great design. --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 20:55, 10 May 2014 (UTC) |
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− | ::::::::::I to would be happy to go forward with this as the final design for the page. — '''[[User:Spydar007|<span style="color:#ff5a00;">Spydar007</span>]] [[User talk:Spydar007|<span style="color:orange;">(Talk)</span>]]''' 06:57, 11 May 2014 (UTC) |
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− | :::::::::::I have now started to use this design on the page. However, I think we should now discuss the markup for the tables. Take a look at the 7.x table. Should we use rowspan to combine evasi0n7 into one? Should we do this for Geeksn0w? Should we use rowspan to combine the tool versions? Should we use rowspan to combine the 7.0.1, 2, 3 and 4 iOS versions? Should we combine Geeksn0w's 'No's? If for example, we combine the tools on the 7.x version, then this should be combined throughout this table and others. So, if we combine the evasi0n7 rows, we should also combine the Geeksn0w. Whatever we do on this table, we should do for other tables like 5.x and 6.x. It needs to be kept uniform and easy to read. — '''[[User:Spydar007|<span style="color:#ff5a00;">Spydar007</span>]] [[User talk:Spydar007|<span style="color:orange;">(Talk)</span>]]''' 15:12, 12 May 2014 (UTC) |
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− | ::::::::::::Oh, and also take a look at the 1.x tables because that needs some ''serious'' improvements. For example, should we even include iOS 1.1? — '''[[User:Spydar007|<span style="color:#ff5a00;">Spydar007</span>]] [[User talk:Spydar007|<span style="color:orange;">(Talk)</span>]]''' 15:30, 12 May 2014 (UTC) |
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− | :::::::::::::I say do just colspan on the actual yes/no part since it was like that before. Doing both breaks the 1.x table. I say that we should rowspan iOS versions however as it looks neater and is easier to understand. I also see no reason for iOS 1.1 since it cannot be jailbroken, and any other iOS's that happen to be like that. --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 20:08, 12 May 2014 (UTC) |
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− | ::::::::::::::What about merging the tool version? I personally think we should keep iOS 1.1 becasue, like the Apple TV, if we don't include it, ssomeone may think we missed it out. Obviously, we should keep it the same throughout the page so if there are other iOS's that can't be jailbroken, we should include those too, for example, if iOS 7.1.2 is released. — '''[[User:Spydar007|<span style="color:black;">Spydar007</span>]] [[User talk:Spydar007|<span style="color:gray;">(Talk)</span>]]''' 05:07, 13 May 2014 (UTC) |
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− | :Hm, I suppose we should include 1.1. I don't mind either way about tool version rowspan. --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 07:24, 13 May 2014 (UTC) |
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− | ::I think we should do rowspan on the yes/no part. — '''[[User:Spydar007|<span style="color:black;">Spydar007</span>]] [[User talk:Spydar007|<span style="color:gray;">(Talk)</span>]]''' 14:49, 13 May 2014 (UTC) |
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− | :::Since talking on IRC and you meant per iOS only, I like the idea. --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 15:09, 13 May 2014 (UTC) |
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− | ::::Ok, so we basically done all that. One more thing though, which one should be superior? For example, take a look at the 5.x table. You can see for PwnageTool on 5.0 the No is colspanned for the iPhone 4S, the iPod 3 and the iPod 4. However, should it be that it is only colspanned on the iPod 3 and the iPod 4, in order to rowspan the iPhone 4S with the other tools? Which should be superior? There are other examples of this throughout this table, like 5.1.1 redsn0w. — '''[[User:Spydar007|<span style="color:black;">Spydar007</span>]] [[User talk:Spydar007|<span style="color:gray;">(Talk)</span>]]''' 16:00, 14 May 2014 (UTC) |
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− | :::::I think that colspan should take priority. --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 16:41, 14 May 2014 (UTC) |
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+ | iOS 4.3.1: |
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− | == iPhone 4 sections == |
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+ | * Saffron does not support iPod3,1 (no http://www.jailbreakme.com/saffron/_/saffron-jailbreak-iPod3,1-8G4.deb; sn0wbreeze uses i0n1c's 4.3.x untether to untether iOS 4.3.1 on n18ap) |
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− | Is it really necessary to have different sections for the variants of the iPhone 4? Surely, we could combine them into one. — '''[[User:Spydar007|<span style="color:#ff5a00;">Spydar007</span>]] [[User talk:Spydar007|<span style="color:orange;">(Talk)</span>]]''' 16:26, 11 April 2014 (UTC) |
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+ | |||
− | :We should keep them as it is because not all devices have the same iOS versions on it. Though iPad 2 is combined, it should be left alone. --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 17:16, 11 April 2014 (UTC) |
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+ | iOS 5.0: |
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− | ::What about the iPad Air for the China LTA WLAN models? — '''[[User:Spydar007|<span style="color:#ff5a00;">Spydar007</span>]] [[User talk:Spydar007|<span style="color:orange;">(Talk)</span>]]''' 17:40, 11 April 2014 (UTC) |
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+ | * sn0wbreeze and redsn0w don't jailbreak iPhone4,1 (maybe redsn0w jailbreaks it, but it is definitely not Tethered) |
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− | :::Well I don't know but I would say don't merge them since there are different CDMA versions etc. See what others think too. Topics on talk pages should be given at least a week before anything changes anyway. --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 17:55, 11 April 2014 (UTC) |
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+ | |||
+ | iOS 5.0.1: |
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+ | * the sn0wbreeze jailbreak for iPhone2,1; iPad1,1 and iPod3,1 is untethered |
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+ | |||
+ | iOS 5.1: |
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+ | * sn0wbreeze is able to jailbreak iPhone3,1 (in an old version) |
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+ | --[[User:Aker|aker]] 20:57, 23 June 2014 (GMT+2) |
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+ | :If you're sure these corrections are right, then please change them. — '''[[User:Spydar007|<span style="color:black;">Spydar007</span>]] [[User talk:Spydar007|<span style="color:gray;">(Talk)</span>]]''' 05:48, 26 June 2014 (UTC) |
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+ | :: Fixed everything listed above. I did not change PwnageTool as I can't check it.--[[User:Aker|aker]] 20:57, 23 June 2014 (GMT+2) |
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+ | |||
+ | == 8.x table error == |
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+ | |||
+ | So I was looking thru the tables and noticed the iPad Air 2 had a 2 that shows to be a note for the iPad Mini 3... I'm thinking it should be a 1 but idk [[User:Mwoolweaver|MWoolweaver]] ([[User talk:Mwoolweaver|talk]]) 20:50, 26 August 2015 (UTC) |
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+ | :Thanks for pointing this out. I've fixed it with how it should have been --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 21:05, 26 August 2015 (UTC) |
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+ | |||
+ | == better clarification between old and new bootrom iPhone 3GS and iPod 2G == |
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+ | |||
+ | I know this isn't very relevant today but I noticed that the links used to explain the differences between old and new bootrom iPhone 3GS's and iPod 2G's don't really lead users to information about how to find if they have an old or new bootrom device. I can think of 2 ways to better show these differences: |
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+ | |||
+ | 1. split these devices ( [[Bootrom 240.4|old bootrom iPod 2G]], [[Bootrom 240.5.1| new bootrom iPod 2G]], [[Bootrom 359.3| old bootrom iPhone 3GS]], [[Bootrom 359.3.2| new bootrom iPhone 3GS]] ) into their own columns to better show them as individual devices instead of them being shown as one device. |
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+ | |||
+ | 2. provide a link to the [https://www.theiphonewiki.com/wiki/Bootrom#Old_.26_New_bootrom Old & New bootrom] section on the [[Bootrom]] page to provide a better explanation off the differences and how to find them since they are not noticeable to the untrained eye. |
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+ | |||
+ | 3. do both of the suggestions above and 1.) add the individual devices to each chart and 2.) provide a note on how to tell them apart from one another |
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+ | |||
+ | [[User:Mwoolweaver|MWoolweaver]] ([[User talk:Mwoolweaver|talk]]) 02:59, 27 August 2015 (UTC) |
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+ | |||
+ | == iPod touch 6G not supported? == |
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+ | |||
+ | So, I looked through the 9.x jailbreak list and was surprised to see the iPod touch 6th-generation left out. Even more confusing, it was labeled "N/A" for being jailbreakable on firmwares 9.0-9.0.2. When checking IPSW.me, I found the iPod 6 had links to IPSWs for 9.0-9.0.2 (like I expected)... |
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+ | |||
+ | Is there a certain reason this happened? It may be a simple misunderstanding but I just want to be sure. --[[User:Citrusui|Citrusui]] ([[User talk:Citrusui|talk]]) 01:59, 22 October 2015 (UTC) |
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+ | : My jailbroken iPod 6th gen disagrees with that statement. I'm guessing it's a mistake. --[[User:Awesomebing1|Awesomebing1]] ([[User talk:Awesomebing1|talk]]) 21:39, 22 October 2015 (UTC) |
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+ | ::I've fixed it since it was a mistake. --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 22:38, 22 October 2015 (UTC) |
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+ | |||
+ | == split the Jailbreak page into subpages, similar to the firmware pages, and change how the latest version of certain jailbreak tools is displayed. == |
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+ | |||
+ | after updating this page tonight, it took me over an hour to fix and update the details between iOS/iPadOS/tvOS 11.x through 14.x, not only that but because the page is so long and there are so many tables inside the page, it lags like crazy when reloading the page, let alone trying to scroll to the area you edited. |
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+ | |||
+ | that time adds-up and because of that fact, i think it's time to breakup this page. |
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+ | |||
+ | thus, the best way i can think-of to tackle this problem is by creating subpages (one page per major firmware) |
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+ | |||
+ | for example: <code>/Jailbreak/Tools/14.x</code> |
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+ | |||
+ | i think we also should consider separating the device types as well. <code>/Jailbreak/[DEVICETYPE]/14.x</code><br/>Replacing [DEVICETYPE] with "iPhone", "iPod", "iPad", "AppleTV", and "AppleWatch" |
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+ | |||
+ | essentially this is mostly a "copy/paste" task, and it'll significantly shrink down the Jailbreak page, and you only have to edit the subpages. |
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+ | |||
+ | and as for updating jailbreak tool versions, we can make a template for that. |
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+ | |||
+ | for example: <code>/Jailbreak/Tools/Latest_versions</code> |
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+ | |||
+ | we can just update that page whenever a new version of a jailbreak tool comes out, e.g: [[checkra1n]], it'll save time. |
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+ | i will build a concept inside my sandbox so you can see what i am thinking of, be back soon! |
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+ | -- [[User:DanTheMann15|DanTheMann15]] ([[User talk:DanTheMann15|talk]]) 05:51, 09 November 2020 (UTC) |
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+ | :That'd be a great idea! I don't think we should make a page for each device too, but separating by major os version I do like. What we can do on the page is make the table have sections for iPad, Air, Pro, mini, iPhone, iPod touch, TV, etc. That way it'll fit the width better. --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 12:33, 9 November 2020 (UTC) |
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+ | :: sounds like a plan, we just need to build it in the sandbox so we know what it'll look like before it actually goes up on the main Jailbreak page. i'll work on it as time allows. -- [[User:DanTheMann15|DanTheMann15]] ([[User talk:DanTheMann15|talk]]) 00:28, 10 November 2020 (UTC) |
Latest revision as of 00:29, 10 November 2020
Contents
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Table fixes
After reading the Jailbreak table I found a few fileds, which are (from my point of view) not correct. Please check these changes. If someone disagrees with these changes, please tel me.
iOS 4.0:
- Star supports iPhone2,1 (http://www.jailbreakme.com/star/_/iPhone2,1_4.0.pdf)
- sn0wbreeze supports iPhone3,1
- sn0wbreeze jailbreaks all iPhone2,1 untethered (software untether from Star)
iOS 4.0.1:
- sn0wbreeze supports iPhone3,1
- sn0wbreeze jailbreaks all iPhone2,1 untethered (software untether from Star)
iOS 4.0.2:
- sn0wbreeze supports iPhone3,1
- sn0wbreeze jailbreaks all iPhone2,1 and iPod2,1 untethered (software untether from limera1n, I think)
iOS 4.1:
- limera1n supports iPhone3,1
iOS 4.3:
- sn0wbreeze Jailbreak for iPad1,1 & iPhone3,1 are untethered (uses Saffron's software untether)
iOS 4.3.1:
- Saffron does not support iPod3,1 (no http://www.jailbreakme.com/saffron/_/saffron-jailbreak-iPod3,1-8G4.deb; sn0wbreeze uses i0n1c's 4.3.x untether to untether iOS 4.3.1 on n18ap)
iOS 5.0:
- sn0wbreeze and redsn0w don't jailbreak iPhone4,1 (maybe redsn0w jailbreaks it, but it is definitely not Tethered)
iOS 5.0.1:
- the sn0wbreeze jailbreak for iPhone2,1; iPad1,1 and iPod3,1 is untethered
iOS 5.1:
- sn0wbreeze is able to jailbreak iPhone3,1 (in an old version)
--aker 20:57, 23 June 2014 (GMT+2)
- If you're sure these corrections are right, then please change them. — Spydar007 (Talk) 05:48, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
- Fixed everything listed above. I did not change PwnageTool as I can't check it.--aker 20:57, 23 June 2014 (GMT+2)
8.x table error
So I was looking thru the tables and noticed the iPad Air 2 had a 2 that shows to be a note for the iPad Mini 3... I'm thinking it should be a 1 but idk MWoolweaver (talk) 20:50, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks for pointing this out. I've fixed it with how it should have been --iAdam1n (talk) 21:05, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
better clarification between old and new bootrom iPhone 3GS and iPod 2G
I know this isn't very relevant today but I noticed that the links used to explain the differences between old and new bootrom iPhone 3GS's and iPod 2G's don't really lead users to information about how to find if they have an old or new bootrom device. I can think of 2 ways to better show these differences:
1. split these devices ( old bootrom iPod 2G, new bootrom iPod 2G, old bootrom iPhone 3GS, new bootrom iPhone 3GS ) into their own columns to better show them as individual devices instead of them being shown as one device.
2. provide a link to the Old & New bootrom section on the Bootrom page to provide a better explanation off the differences and how to find them since they are not noticeable to the untrained eye.
3. do both of the suggestions above and 1.) add the individual devices to each chart and 2.) provide a note on how to tell them apart from one another
MWoolweaver (talk) 02:59, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
iPod touch 6G not supported?
So, I looked through the 9.x jailbreak list and was surprised to see the iPod touch 6th-generation left out. Even more confusing, it was labeled "N/A" for being jailbreakable on firmwares 9.0-9.0.2. When checking IPSW.me, I found the iPod 6 had links to IPSWs for 9.0-9.0.2 (like I expected)...
Is there a certain reason this happened? It may be a simple misunderstanding but I just want to be sure. --Citrusui (talk) 01:59, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
- My jailbroken iPod 6th gen disagrees with that statement. I'm guessing it's a mistake. --Awesomebing1 (talk) 21:39, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
split the Jailbreak page into subpages, similar to the firmware pages, and change how the latest version of certain jailbreak tools is displayed.
after updating this page tonight, it took me over an hour to fix and update the details between iOS/iPadOS/tvOS 11.x through 14.x, not only that but because the page is so long and there are so many tables inside the page, it lags like crazy when reloading the page, let alone trying to scroll to the area you edited.
that time adds-up and because of that fact, i think it's time to breakup this page.
thus, the best way i can think-of to tackle this problem is by creating subpages (one page per major firmware)
for example: /Jailbreak/Tools/14.x
i think we also should consider separating the device types as well. /Jailbreak/[DEVICETYPE]/14.x
Replacing [DEVICETYPE] with "iPhone", "iPod", "iPad", "AppleTV", and "AppleWatch"
essentially this is mostly a "copy/paste" task, and it'll significantly shrink down the Jailbreak page, and you only have to edit the subpages.
and as for updating jailbreak tool versions, we can make a template for that.
for example: /Jailbreak/Tools/Latest_versions
we can just update that page whenever a new version of a jailbreak tool comes out, e.g: checkra1n, it'll save time.
i will build a concept inside my sandbox so you can see what i am thinking of, be back soon!
-- DanTheMann15 (talk) 05:51, 09 November 2020 (UTC)
- That'd be a great idea! I don't think we should make a page for each device too, but separating by major os version I do like. What we can do on the page is make the table have sections for iPad, Air, Pro, mini, iPhone, iPod touch, TV, etc. That way it'll fit the width better. --iAdam1n (talk) 12:33, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
- sounds like a plan, we just need to build it in the sandbox so we know what it'll look like before it actually goes up on the main Jailbreak page. i'll work on it as time allows. -- DanTheMann15 (talk) 00:28, 10 November 2020 (UTC)