User talk:Liamchat

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KBAGs

Hello, Liamchat! I noticed that you've been adding KBAGs to the key pages. I certainly appreciate the addition of such information, but just listing KBAGs without mentioning which file they're for isn't exactly helpful. Would you mind mentioning which file each KBAG is for? --Dialexio 21:39, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

i added them because i don't have those devices and i think it may help people get the key's if i add them however the exact is

• 018-7074-092.dmg:
• 018-7082-092.dmg:
• DeviceTree.n90ap.img3:
• LLB.n90ap.RELEASE.img3:
• applelogo-640x960.s5l8930x.img3:
• batterycharging0-640x960.s5l8930x.img3:
• batterycharging1-640x960.s5l8930x.img3:
• batteryfull-640x960.s5l8930x.img3:
• batterylow0-640x960.s5l8930x.img3:
• batterylow1-640x960.s5l8930x.img3:
• glyphcharging-640x960.s5l8930x.img3:
• glyphplugin-640x960.s5l8930x.img3:
• iBEC.n90ap.RELEASE.dfu:
• iBSS.n90ap.RELEASE.dfu:
• iBoot.n90ap.RELEASE.img3:
• kernelcache.release.n81:
• recoverymode-640x960.s5l8930x.img3:

--liamchat 22:09, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

Ban liamchat request

There is a petition going on to ban liamchat from this wiki. I'm not sure how serious it is and nobody can vote for him there. So please comment here, pro and contra, preferrably with arguments. I think five users more against him with serious arguments would be enough. --http 22:05, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

??? Why would you ban him? I havn't seen anything wrong he has done... Please give more info... --Balloonhead66 22:15, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

I don't understand it ether but I do help by filling in the missing keys and check the Current ones --liamchat 22:45, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

Just to make it clear: Nobody will be banned just because others don't like someone. For a ban we need a clear majority of people with good arguments. --http 22:52, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

Please give evidence of deleting / filling in wrong data. Single mistakes can happen. And his problems on IRC are unrelated to this wiki. --http 21:55, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

Table

Please fill out this table with info... use {{yes|Pro}} for a pro, {{no|Con}} for a con, or {{partial|Somewhat}} for a ehh... in the first column

Pro/Con	What it is	Evidence	Adder
Pro	He helps out this wiki alot	Special:Contributions/Liamchat	Balloonhead66
Pro	He helps overall, but could take a little break every so often and learn more about orginizing.	Many pages	JacobVengeance
Somewhat	He needs to work on formatting	/dev	Balloonhead66
Pro	He tested software to help developers	Talk:PwnPie	liamchat
Pro	He finished the transcript of the 25C3 presentation Hacking the iPhone	25C3 presentation Hacking the iPhone	liamchat
Pro	He added iv/keys that where old and ignored	Timberline 5G77a (iPod touch 2G)	liamchat
Pro	He help's people when they ask on the wiki	Talk:AES Keys	liamchat
Con	He has stolen keys from users like GreySyntax and often posts useless/incorrect keys. He also deletes proper info and cites the Wiki for everything. Finally, his KBAGS aren't needed.	[Citation Needed]	vexenon
Con	For several times he has posted wrong keys in the wiki. Deletes correct info replacing it with he's own. (Apart from being a major spammer and general annoyance at IRC)	[Citation Needed]	Z00L

stolen keys

can you give evidence of which keys are the stolen keys because i use PwnPie to grab my keys and only greysyntax can say i stole his keys --liamchat 17:28, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

useless/incorrect keys

i check every key i post and use the kbag's as evidence to prove it works --liamchat 17:28, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

Where? I personally have tested almost all VFDecrypt keys he has posted and they are correct --Balloonhead66 00:23, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

Edit Wars

• Opinion - "a belief or judgment that rests on grounds insufficient to produce complete certainty." [1]

One doesn't need evidence to state an opinion. For example, I can safely go around saying, "Cookies taste good," without proof and no one will bash me for it. THEREFORE, the entries in the above table should NOT be edited by anyone other than their author, as that is their opinion. You can't make me think that red isn't a good color anymore than I can make you enjoy using hairspray.

My point is, it's someone's opinion and you can't change it.

Therefore, </edit-war> --dra1nerdrake 00:45, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

I like your thinking. I agree 100%

P.S: I object your "Cookies taste good" since I'm always right ;P

--Ifish 00:59, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

Thank you. ~drake

also can we remove the mentioning of greysyntax he never said i stole his keys --liamchat 15:39, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

Template for keys

Hi liamchat! It's nice if you post new keys pages. But could you use the standard format (template), I mean like JasperVail 8C134 (iPhone_3GS), instead of this new page from you? Preferrably without the KBAGs (until all agreed that we want them). This way you save us some reformatting work and you'll have less haters. Thanks! --http 23:35, 19 November 2010 (UTC)