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Merge pages

/private/var is the correct name and has a better description, but /var has a full folder listing. --Ryccardo 12:33, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Dealt with. :) --Dialexio 02:58, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

I think Sierra_7C108b and SwitchBoard.app should be merged. Or are there any differences that I misunderstood? --http 22:13, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

I wouldn't merge the two since SwitchBoard.app is in Sierra 7C108b, but it's not exclusive to that build. --Dialexio 00:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

I understand. Ok, no merge. But currently both are about the app. We should put that content into SwitchBoard.app and focus Sierra 7C108b more on the firmware then (would be very short right now). Also we should delete one of the two images. What do you think? --http 03:10, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

Agreed. Both of the screenshots show different "apps" though, so it might be best to keep both images. --Dialexio 03:41, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

Hackers and Teams

We have only one page for IH8sn0w, but with this name we have both things: the person and the team. I'm not sure how to do this. He is listed as a member of his group. Also all referals should distinguish then, that's quite difficult. He himself also had no idea. Maybe a new page with IH8sn0w team where the current content should go to? -- http 19:20, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

A similar problem exists for chronic. It is split already: User:ChronicDev (user) and Chronic Dev (team). I think we should rename the team to Chronic Dev Team, although this is not their official name, but it helps to distinguish. What do you think? -- http 19:27, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

We could use parentheses, such as iH8sn0w (team) and Chronic Dev (team). Alternatively, we could use prefixes, like Team:iH8sn0w and Team:Chronic Dev. --Dialexio 19:56, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

Parentheses sounds good. Prefix is more wiki-internal stuff for me. -- http 06:03, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanks Dialexio for going ahead with this. We now have a few disambiguation pages, but they are not marked as such (see Special:Disambiguations). I don't know how to mark them with this template. Do you? -- http 06:43, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

I tried to see if I could get it to work (using the Chronic Dev page for testing), but I can't figure out why it won't appear on the Special:Disambiguations. --Dialexio 15:43, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

Will this site keep running?

I'm enjoying learning about the highly technical side to the iPhone, but after what's happened with geohot, will this site continue? -- MaybachMan 16:46, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

Yes it will continue. I had the same question and geohot already answered that on his talk page. --http 18:46, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

That's great to hear, thank you. MaybachMan

Baseband: Processor vs. Platform

All right, so The iPhone Wiki has articles about baseband processors. However, the XMM 6180 is about the baseband platform. The wiki mostly references baseband processors, but I'm a bit reluctant to go that route since it was Oranav, who definitely knows more about the baseband than me, that changed the article from baseband processor to baseband platform. I'd like to keep things consistent, so should we stick with referencing it by processor or platform? This inconsistency is bugging the crap out of me. --Dialexio 06:19, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

Cleanup orphaned pages

The orphaned pages should be cleaned up. Possible work:

• most of those pages need to get updated
• add a link on another page to it, so that it's not orphaned anymore
• The main page and some disambiguation pages may remain orphaned.
• Some pages are really old, outdated and not worth to get updated. In this case add a deletion request to its talk page.
• Maybe we need a new overview page that links to some of these pages (e.g. my request for a Beta Firmware page, see Talk:VFDecrypt_Keys:_3.x_BETA#STOP)
• Please note that links with a prefix don't count for this list, so that pages that only appear on a Category page also appear in this list. To get the full links list, go to the page and click "what links here".

I started with a little cleanup already. --http 10:02, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

Useless Team Pages

I think we should remove all the team pages of users. Keep the Chronic and iPhone dev teams, but the rest that are just milking the wiki as a way to seek fame. There is no purpose for it and it just causes a large amount of useless edits and arguments. Instead of having a team page how about just add the software you make and use the credits part of it? Is there really a need for team pages? I am open to all discussions, just don't argue here. --JakeAnthraX 14:49, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

As long as the team in question is actually doing *something* I see no reason not to document them. MaybachMan 15:11, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Well my counter to that is still there is no need for it. Maybe when you guys do something that is amazing or make something that isn't already out there. I don't want to fight, don't think I do. I just want the wiki to be peaceful and a place of knowledge. Not people gloating to be parts of groups and leech off of other people. Is the page really that important to you? --JakeAnthraX 15:14, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

My team made a jailbreak using usb control msg for iPodTouch2g MC. It was compatible with 4.0.2 and it was semitethered. Anyway I don't want it on theiphonewiki, because this wiki should NOT be TheTeamsWiki.--Qwertyoruiop 15:22, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

The page isn't for showing off, we made it so we can have a place to list all the projects the team makes, which I find useful. I don't want to fight over it, but I just think it has a use for organising knowledge on here, that's all. MaybachMan 15:19, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Well I'm done arguing. I still say both be removed until a group release is made. Either way it doesn't matter much to me, but I had to make things fair between the groups. Let other people voice their opinions for a day or so and don't remove deletion request until it is decided as a community, okay? --JakeAnthraX 15:21, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Until then, the deletion should be undone. I notice my team's page is already deleted for some reason. Or the content is, anyway. MaybachMan 15:23, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Wait, i have an idea. A wiki for projects by secondary teams. If anyone wants, I can host it. :) --Qwertyoruiop 15:24, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

I have a question. Why is it that it is like you must be on a team to be on here, cuz you don't! --Balloonhead66 15:25, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Well without the deletion tags people won't know to discuss it, but it is up to the sysops in the end. So Yeah. --JakeAnthraX 15:29, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Deleting Firmware (keys) pages

One thing. A key page should never be deleted unless it is empty. They still have valublw info on them. --Balloonhead66 03:55, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

I agree. Firmware pages shouln't get deleted. Missing information will get filled out sooner or later anyway. And we don't want to delete and recreate them. I'll delete firmware pages only if the page's name is wrong. If information on it is wrong, please just write it onto the page or remove the wrong info. If the page is empty (no keys) this still applies, but please don't create new empty pages. --http 08:26, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

VFDecrypt GUIs

I don't mean to sound like a dictator, but I'd like to request for no more VFDecrypt GUIs to be added here. There are more than enough of them, so I feel there really isn't a need to add any more. Whenever a new one arises, an argument spews over about its usefulness, as well as whether it belongs on this wiki. These arguments clog up the Recent changes page, making it tougher to keep an eye on things with the wiki. So, once again, I'd like to ask for no more VFDecrypt GUIs to have a place on this wiki. As of now, this is NOT a rule that will be imposed. It's just a polite request, nothing more. --Dialexio 19:35, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

I'd ask for GUI's of all kinds, such as VFDecrypt, iRecovery, and so on. Anyone can make a GUI. It takes a real hacker to write a program. --dra1nerdrake 22:52, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

We only have 3 publiclly available ones + 2 in development --Balloonhead66 00:14, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

I saw this coming when the new page for GiRecovery (Zeratul) first appeared some months ago. This Wiki is not intended to promote these tools. I didn't want to just delete the page though. One way we could go: Make sure all applications (including highly recognized ones and jailbreak apps like Limera1n) will get listed on an overview Tools page. It should be categorized by tool purpose and operating system. Maybe also by related iOS firmware. As soon as this works well, we just have to assure that not anybody adds new tools there. For example by having two users request a new entry (without the author). We can start this Tools page in any case. Initially we can include all these useless GUI apps already existing here also. -- http 07:38, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

We could delete the original pages and merge them with the page of the original app in a subsection. To be honest, though, I still don't see the point of having 4 softwares that do the same thing with the same features. --Ryccardo 09:22, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

All of them just decrypt. But mine will have 7zip integration to extract it for you and possibly look up the key automatically based on the Dmg name... --Balloonhead66 14:28, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

http://theiphonewiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=Ground_Rules#No_advertising_your_website.2Fforum.2Fwiki.2Fetc.Theiphonewiki is to help people understand the method and not just give people a GUI which can do those stuff.Take limera1n for example,they descibe about the software and their payload, method, explanation is over there which is what theiphonewiki wants and not just a GUI with the name over there and crediting their "own" team. --Whiteshinyapple.

To Balloonhead66:And dont undo the stuff I did. The sysops will decide and it is their decision not yours. --Whiteshinyapple.

A GUI is not a wiki website or forum apple dude --Balloonhead66 03:51, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

Yup a GUI is a program not a website. Those VFDecrypt GUI's just basically call the real VFDecrypt Program which does the real work.It is the same as using a batch file to call a program.If we saw a iphone wiki page which is showing a batch file; wouldnt we delete that? Its the same for these GUI's. We got to delete them!They are just advertising their program so that people will download it and geohot doesnt want people to advertise their stuff,he didnt say about a program but im sure that he meant any type of advertising including this.

Polls

I think we should have a page for polls, like this: Polls. I am requesting this as I need to take a quick survey, and I don't know where to place it. The poll does relate to the iPhone... --Balloonhead66 00:41, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

iPhone Compatibility

Well the wikis startpage (and maybe other pages) do not display really good on the iphone ;) -- M2m 16:11, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

Well, I think it's good enough. Ok, it's not optimized, but it's ok. If we improve the startpage to have only one column, then that would look ugly on a PC. I work a lot in here from my iPhone. The biggest problem is the edit box. You cannot really edit big texts from your iPhone. But that's a problem of the Wiki itself (Mediawiki) and we cannot fix that just by changing texts or layout. -- http 22:25, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

On all textboxes, use 2 fingers to scroll --Balloonhead66 02:52, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

Installing the extension MobileSkin would be something geohot would have to do. Also he would have to create a mobile skin as all that extension does is display a skin over the default MonoBook skin... --Balloonhead66 00:43, 16 November 2010 (UTC)