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Okay, we've seen a bunch of firmwares come and go now. The page has started getting pretty incomprehensible and unwieldy. For starters, I think we can move the exploits used to a different page (Jailbreak Exploits?). We'll probably have to rethink how the tables display the information to make it friendlier to use… Maybe forgo tables, and present the information in a list, like such:

iPod touch 4G

Absinthe: iOS 5.0.1
greenpois0n: iOS 4.1, 4.2.1
p0sixspwn: iOS 6.1.5, 6.1.6 (Cydia package only)
Saffron: iOS 4.3, 4.3.1, 4.3.2, 4.3.3

What do you guys think? --Dialexio (talk) 01:19, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

I do like the idea of this, though I kind of prefer a table. I do agree though that something in the tables should change since they are getting too big. If no other table ideas are thought of, I would be fine with this proposed design. --iAdam1n (talk) 01:27, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

We should definitely move the exploits to a seperate page. I'm not so sure about the list view since we wouldn't be able to show which version of which tool is capable of jailbreaking which firmware like we can in the tables at the moment. I think we should have a separate page for Jailbreak Tools and that this page should only be for the first few paragraphs. — Spydar007 (Talk) 09:25, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

The only problem with the tables though, is that they do not fit on the page. If this can be made to fit, then I also like the idea of keeping tables. --iAdam1n (talk) 09:31, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

I don't think it is a problem that they don't fit as you can just use the scrollbar at the bottom of your browser. There aren't many that don't fit, four or five. The only way I see we would be able to fix this, would be to make the text smaller. — Spydar007 (Talk) 09:40, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

Maybe we could use the list view as Dialexio said but in brackets list the version used? We could have a sentence on the page saying what it means. For example;

iPod touch 5G

evasi0n7: iOS 7.0.4 (1.0)

That way we keep the version numbers but don't overflow the page. --iAdam1n (talk) 09:49, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

We could do, but I still think the tables look cooler and nicer. — Spydar007 (Talk) 09:52, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

We could also have a table for each jailbreak tool, listing tool versions, iOS versions and devices supported. I am not sure yet how it would be designed, but wanted to put the idea out there incase anyone has ideas. --iAdam1n (talk) 10:02, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

So you mean instead of having a several tables for devices, wer have several tables for jailbreak tools. Nice idea! I like that and it will be a lot cleaner than it is currently. — Spydar007 (Talk) 10:06, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

Yes, that is what I mean. I have a design that could be used, here. If anyone has a better idea, please share it. --iAdam1n (talk) 10:12, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

That looks great! I was just coming up with another design, although I think that that makes it clear enough. — Spydar007 (Talk) 10:32, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

Here is what I came up with for evasi0n7 (it's not finished, obviously). — Spydar007 (Talk) 10:37, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

Looks great too. We could maybe avoid the (3,1) etc but lets see what others think. --iAdam1n (talk) 12:32, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

I built on your proposal a little more and came up with this. (It's based off of Absinthe's compatibility information.) How does it look? --Dialexio (talk) 01:50, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

iOS Version	Device
iOS Version	iPhone 4 (iPhone3,1)	iPhone 4 (iPhone3,2)	iPhone 4 (iPhone3,3)	iPhone 4S
5.0	No			0.1
5.0.1 (9A405)	2.0			0.1
5.0.1 (9A406)	N/A			Yes
5.1	No
5.1.1	2.0

That does look a bit like mine. You've just added in the colors and changed a few things around. :P I would be happy to go forward with this design as the final version. — Spydar007 (Talk) 12:36, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

Also looks fine by me. If the table still did not fit, we could use iPhone 4 without variants also. --iAdam1n (talk) 12:50, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

Do you guys think we should go ahead with this? — Spydar007 (Talk) 14:28, 19 April 2014 (UTC)

Fine by me. --iAdam1n (talk) 16:08, 19 April 2014 (UTC)

Are we agreed to move the exploits to Jailbreak Exploits and the tools to Jailbreak Tools? — Spydar007 (Talk) 14:27, 21 April 2014 (UTC)

I agree with the exploits, but do not like the idea for a new page for tools. We can add a new section ==Jailbreak Tools== instead which IMO will look better. --iAdam1n (talk) 16:22, 21 April 2014 (UTC)

I can go either way, but I don't see the need to move jailbreak compatibility to a new page. It seems fine over here. --Dialexio (talk) 17:08, 21 April 2014 (UTC)

Hm… Now that I see the layout in action, the page certainly looks neater, but it does seem a bit difficult to find the device you're looking for. Any ideas on how to tackle this? Perhaps we can do away with "Device" in favor of more descriptive cells for device classes. (i.e. "Apple TV," "iPad," "iPad mini," "iPhone," and "iPod touch") Here's how it might look:

iOS Version	iPhone 4 (iPhone3,1)	iPhone 4 (iPhone3,2)	iPhone 4 (iPhone3,3)	iPhone 4S	iPod touch 4G
iOS Version	iPhone				iPod touch
5.1.1	2.0

(I thought of squeezing that row in between "Device" and the different models, but I didn't care for how it looked.) Any other thoughts? --Dialexio (talk) 00:38, 25 April 2014 (UTC)

evasi0n7 exploits

Since there is no list of exploits for evasi0n7, here are the ones Apple patched in iOS 7.1:

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT6162

Is it possible to make a list of them from this data? — Spydar007 (Talk) 15:33, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

iPhone 4 sections

Is it really necessary to have different sections for the variants of the iPhone 4? Surely, we could combine them into one. — Spydar007 (Talk) 16:26, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

We should keep them as it is because not all devices have the same iOS versions on it. Though iPad 2 is combined, it should be left alone. --iAdam1n (talk) 17:16, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

What about the iPad Air for the China LTA WLAN models? — Spydar007 (Talk) 17:40, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

Well I don't know but I would say don't merge them since there are different CDMA versions etc. See what others think too. Topics on talk pages should be given at least a week before anything changes anyway. --iAdam1n (talk) 17:55, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

Old Jailbreak Tools Sections for construction

Apple TV 2G

Jailbreak Tool	Works with firmware...
Jailbreak Tool	4.0/4.1	4.1/4.2	4.1.1/4.2.1	4.2/4.3	4.2.1/4.3	4.2.2/4.3	4.3	4.4/5.0	4.4.1/5.0	4.4.2/5.0	4.4.3/5.0.1	4.4.4/5.0.1	5.0/5.1	5.0.1/5.1.1	5.0.2/5.1.1	5.1/6.0	5.1.1/6.0.1	5.2/6.1	5.2.1/6.1.3	5.3/6.1.4	6.0/7.0.1	6.0/7.0.2	6.0.1/7.0.3	6.0.2/7.0.4	6.0.2/7.0.6	6.1/7.1
evasi0n	No															1.0			No
greenpois0n	no package management GUI	No	RC6-RC6.1	No
limera1n	no package management GUI	No
p0sixspwn	No																		1.0		No
PwnageTool	no package management GUI	Restore from a custom firmware with unofficial bundle¹	4.2	No	4.3-4.3.3.1	4.3-4.3.3.1²	No							5.1.1 (no package management GUI)	No
redsn0w	No				0.9.6rc16	No										0.9.15b1¹	0.9.15b3³				No
Seas0nPass (Mac)	??? -	??? -	0.6.7 -	0.7.2 -	0.7.3 -	0.7.6.??? -	0.7.8.??? -	0.7.9.???¹ -	0.7.9.210¹ -	0.7.9.230¹ -	0.7.9.270 -	0.7.9.290 -	0.8.3.470¹ -	0.8.4.518 -	0.8.6.565 -	0.8.? -	0.8.? -	0.8.9.655 -	0.9.?¹ -	0.9.5 -	No
Seas0nPass (Windows)	??? -	??? -	??? -	??? -	0.3.7.???? -	0.3.13.???? -	0.3.29.???? -	0.3.37.????¹ -		0.3.42.3335¹ -	0.3.44.???? -	0.3.45.4035 -	0.8.3.5592¹	0.8.4.6306 -	0.8.6.7558 -	0.8.? -	0.8.? -	0.8.9.11241 -	0.9.?¹ -	0.9.5 -	No
sn0wbreeze	no package management GUI	No			2.5-2.7.1	No										2.9.8			No
unthredera1n	no package management GUI	Yes														No

¹ Tethered jailbreak.
² User needs to manually add PwnageTool firmware bundle into application.
³ Point at 6.0 IPSW. Also Tethered jailbreak.

Apple TV 3G (AppleTV3,1)

No jailbreak currently available.

Apple TV 3G (AppleTV3,2)

No jailbreak currently available.

Jailbreak/Deprecated iPads

iPad 2

Jailbreak Tool	Works with firmware...
Jailbreak Tool	4.3	4.3.1	4.3.2	4.3.3	4.3.4	4.3.5	5.0	5.0.1	5.1	5.1.1	6.0	6.0.1	6.1	6.1.2	6.1.3	7.0	7.0.2	7.0.3	7.0.4	7.0.6	7.1
Absinthe	No							0.2-0.4	No	2.0¹-2.0.4	No
evasi0n	No										1.0			1.4	No
evasi0n7	No															1.0.0				1.0.6	No
p0sixspwn	No														1.0	No
redsn0w	No							0.9.10b7-0.9.11b4	No	0.9.12b1	No
Saffron	No			Yes	No

¹ Not compatible with iPad2,4

iPad 3

Jailbreak Tool	Works with firmware...
Jailbreak Tool	5.1	5.1.1	6.0	6.0.1	6.1	6.1.2	6.1.3	7.0	7.0.2	7.0.3	7.0.4	7.0.6	7.1
Absinthe	No	2.0-2.0.4	No
evasi0n	No		1.0			1.4	No
evasi0n7	No							1.0.0				1.0.6	No
p0sixspwn	No						1.0	No
redsn0w	No	0.9.12b1	No

iPad 4

Jailbreak Tool	Works with firmware...
Jailbreak Tool	6.0	6.0.1	6.1	6.1.2	6.1.3	7.0	7.0.2	7.0.3	7.0.4	7.0.6	7.1
evasi0n	1.0			1.4	No
evasi0n7	No					1.0.0				1.0.6	No
p0sixspwn	No				1.0	No

iPad Air

Jailbreak Tool	Works with firmware...
Jailbreak Tool	7.0.3	7.0.4	7.0.6	7.1
evasi0n7	1.0.0		1.0.6	No

iPad mini 1G

Jailbreak Tool	Works with firmware...
Jailbreak Tool	6.0	6.0.1	6.0.2	6.1	6.1.2	6.1.3	7.0	7.0.2	7.0.3	7.0.4	7.0.6	7.1
evasi0n	1.0				1.4	No
evasi0n7	No						1.0.0				1.0.6	No
p0sixspwn	No					1.0	No

iPad mini 2G

Jailbreak Tool	Works with firmware...
Jailbreak Tool	7.0.3	7.0.4	7.0.6	7.1
evasi0n7	1.0.0		1.0.6	No

Jailbreak/Deprecated iPhones

iPhone 4 (iPhone3,1)

Jailbreak Tool	Works with firmware...
Jailbreak Tool	4.0	4.0.1	4.0.2	4.1	4.2.1	4.3	4.3.1	4.3.2	4.3.3	4.3.4	4.3.5	5.0	5.0.1	5.1	5.1.1 (9B206)	5.1.1 (9B208)	6.0	6.0.1	6.1	6.1.2	6.1.3	7.0	7.0.2	7.0.3	7.0.4	7.0.6	7.1
Absinthe	No														2.0	2.0.2	No
evasi0n	No																1.0			1.4	No
evasi0n7	No																					1.0.0				1.0.6	No
Geeksn0w	No																										2.5-2.8.3¹
greenpois0n	No			RC4	RC5-RC6.1	No
limera1n	Yes				No
p0sixspwn	No																				1.0	No
PwnageTool	No			4.1-4.1.3	4.2	4.2^{1 3}	4.3	4.3.2	4.3.3-4.3.3.1	4.3.3^{1 3}			5.0.1	No	5.1.1		No
redsn0w	No			0.9.6b2-0.9.6rc16	0.9.6b4¹-0.9.6rc16 or 0.9.7b6^{1 2}	0.9.6rc9¹-0.9.6rc16¹	0.9.6rc9¹-0.9.6rc16	0.9.6rc13¹-0.9.6rc16	0.9.6rc16	0.9.8b3¹	0.9.8b7¹	0.9.9b3¹	0.9.10b6	0.9.10b6¹	0.9.12b1-0.9.14b2		0.9.15b1¹	0.9.15b1⁴				No
Saffron	No					Yes				No
sn0wbreeze	No			2.1	2.2	2.3b4¹	2.5	2.6-2.6.1	2.7-2.7.1	No		2.8b8¹	2.9.1	No	2.9.6		2.9.8			2.9.10	2.9.14¹	No
Star	Yes		No
unthredera1n	No					Yes											No

¹ Tethered jailbreak.
² If SHSHs were saved for iOS 4.2b3 and if you have a developer access to its IPSW, Jailbreak Monte can be used.
³ Requires an unofficial firmware bundle.
⁴ Requires pointing redsn0w at 6.0 IPSW. Also Tethered jailbreak.

iPhone 4 (iPhone3,2)

Jailbreak Tool	Works with firmware...
Jailbreak Tool	6.0	6.0.1	6.1	6.1.2	6.1.3	7.0	7.0.2	7.0.3	7.0.4	7.0.6	7.1
evasi0n	1.0			1.4	No
Geeksn0w	No										2.5-2.8.3¹
evasi0n7	No					1.0.0				1.0.6	No
p0sixspwn	No				1.0	No
redsn0w	0.9.15b3²					No
sn0wbreeze	2.9.8			2.9.10	2.9.14¹	No

¹ Tethered jailbreak.
² Requires pointing redsn0w at 6.0 IPSW. Also Tethered jailbreak.

iPhone 4 (iPhone3,3)

Jailbreak Tool	Works with firmware...
Jailbreak Tool	4.2.5	4.2.6	4.2.7	4.2.8	4.2.9	4.2.10	5.0	5.0.1	5.1	5.1.1	6.0	6.0.1	6.1	6.1.2	6.1.3	7.0	7.0.2	7.0.3	7.0.4	7.0.6	7.1
Absinthe	No							2.0	No	2.0	No
evasi0n	No										1.0			1.4	No
evasi0n7	No															1.0.0				1.0.6	No
Geeksn0w	No																				2.5-2.8.3¹
greenpois0n	No	RC5 b4-RC6.1	No
p0sixspwn	No														1.0	No
PwnageTool	No	4.2	No	4.2²	No			5.0.1	No
redsn0w	No	0.9.6rc9-0.9.10b8b	0.9.8b2-0.9.10b8b	0.9.6rc18-0.9.10b8b	0.9.8b3¹-0.9.10b8b¹	0.9.8b7¹-0.9.10b8b¹	0.9.9b3¹-0.9.10b8b¹	0.9.9b9¹-0.9.10b8b	0.9.10b6¹-0.9.10b8b¹	0.9.12b1	0.9.14b1¹	0.9.15b3³				No
Saffron	No	Yes			No
sn0wbreeze	No	2.2-2.9.3	2.6-2.9.3	2.7-2.9.3	No		2.8b9¹-2.9.3¹	2.8b11¹-2.9.3	2.9.2¹-2.9.3¹	2.9.7	2.9.8			2.9.10	2.9.14¹	No
unthredera1n	No	Yes									No

¹ Tethered jailbreak.
² Requires unofficial bundle.
³ Requires pointing redsn0w at 6.0 IPSW. Also Tethered jailbreak.

iPhone 4S

Jailbreak Tool	Works with firmware...
Jailbreak Tool	5.0	5.0.1	5.0.1 (9A406)	5.1	5.1.1	6.0	6.0.1	6.1	6.1.1	6.1.2	6.1.3	7.0	7.0.2	7.0.3	7.0.4	7.0.6	7.1
Absinthe	0.1.2-1			No	2.0	No
evasi0n	No					1.0			1.3	1.4	No
evasi0n7	No											1.0.0				1.0.6	No
p0sixspwn	No										1.0	No
redsn0w	No	0.9.10b7	0.9.11b2	No	0.9.12b1	No

iPhone 5

Jailbreak Tool	Works with firmware...
Jailbreak Tool	6.0	6.0.1	6.0.2	6.1	6.1.2	6.1.3	6.1.4	7.0	7.0.2	7.0.3	7.0.4	7.0.6	7.1
evasi0n	1.0					1.4	No
evasi0n7	No							1.0.0				1.0.6	No
p0sixspwn	No					1.0		No

iPhone 5c (iPhone5,3)

Jailbreak Tool	Works with firmware...
Jailbreak Tool	7.0	7.0.1	7.0.2	7.0.3	7.0.4	7.0.6	7.1
evasi0n7	1.0.8	1.0.0				1.0.6	No

iPhone 5c (iPhone5,4)

Jailbreak Tool	Works with firmware...
Jailbreak Tool	7.0	7.0.1	7.0.2	7.0.3	7.0.4	7.0.5	7.0.6	7.1
evasi0n7	1.0.8	1.0.0				1.0.5	1.0.6	No

iPhone 5s (iPhone6,1)

Jailbreak Tool	Works with firmware...
Jailbreak Tool	7.0	7.0.1	7.0.2	7.0.3	7.0.4	7.0.6	7.1
evasi0n7	1.0.8	1.0.0				1.0.6	No

iPhone 5s (iPhone6,2)

Jailbreak Tool	Works with firmware...
Jailbreak Tool	7.0	7.0.1	7.0.2	7.0.3	7.0.4	7.0.5	7.0.6	7.1
evasi0n7	1.0.8	1.0.0				1.0.5	1.0.6	No

Jailbreak/Deprecated iPod touches

iPod touch 5G

Jailbreak Tool	Works with firmware...
Jailbreak Tool	6.0	6.0.1	6.1	6.1.2	6.1.3	7.0	7.0.2	7.0.3	7.0.4	7.0.6	7.1
evasi0n	1.0			1.4	No
evasi0n7	No					1.0.0				1.0.6	No
p0sixspwn	No				1.0	No

@@ Line 63: / Line 63: @@
 ::::::::::::::::::I agree with the exploits, but do not like the idea for a new page for tools. We can add a new section <code>==Jailbreak Tools==</code> instead which IMO will look better. --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 16:22, 21 April 2014 (UTC)
 ::::::::::::::::::I can go either way, but I don't see the need to move jailbreak compatibility to a new page. It seems fine over here. --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] ([[User talk:Dialexio|talk]]) 17:08, 21 April 2014 (UTC)
+:::::::::::::Hm… Now that I see the layout in action, the page certainly looks neater, but it does seem a bit difficult to find the device you're looking for. Any ideas on how to tackle this? Perhaps we can do away with "Device" in favor of more descriptive cells for device classes. (i.e. "Apple TV," "iPad," "iPad mini," "iPhone," and "iPod touch") Here's how it might look:
+:::::::::::::{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: smaller; text-align: center;"
+|-
+! rowspan="2" | iOS Version
+| colspan="4" | iPhone
+| iPod touch
+|-
+! iPhone 4 (iPhone3,1)
+! iPhone 4 (iPhone3,2)
+! iPhone 4 (iPhone3,3)
+! iPhone 4S
+! iPod touch 4G
+|-
+| 5.1.1
+| colspan="5" {{yes|2.0}}
+|}
+:::::::::::::(I thought of squeezing that row in between "Device" and the different models, but I didn't care for how it looked.) Any other thoughts? --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] ([[User talk:Dialexio|talk]]) 00:38, 25 April 2014 (UTC)
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